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show that it is stronger than injustice, since injustice is ignorance; no one any longer can fail to see that. But I do not wish, Thrasymachus, to examine the question in this sweeping way. Let us consider it from this other point of view. Would you admit that a state may be unjust, and may be unjustly attempting to enslave, or may have already completely enslaved other states, and may hold many states in slavery under herself ?"
" Without doubt," he replied. "And the state which is the best and at the same time most completely unjust will do this most frequently."
" I understand," I said, "that this was your statement of the case. But what I would consider about it is whether the state which becomes the superior of another state will obtain this power without the help of justice, or whether justice will be necessary to its attainment."
" If the matter stands as you were saying just now, that is, if justice is wisdom, with justice; but if as I was saying, with injustice."
" I am quite delighted, Thrasymachus," I said, "that you are answering so well, and that you are not merely nodding and shaking your head."
" Yes," he said, "I am trying to oblige you."

CHAPTER XXIII.
" Surely it is very good of you ; but oblige me still more and tell me this: Do you think that a city, or an army, or a band of robbers, or thieves, or any other community, which should combine to commit injustice, would be able to succeed

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